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FF.net goes on strike & schadenfreude ensues

I can't be the only one amused by the fact that fanfiction.net goes down (or at least, their login authentication does) and LJ rant communities have a collective meltdown. Heh!

There's been a rumor (let me stress RUMOR) floating around that part of the reason for the outage is that FF.net is purging all M-rated fics. This seems unlikely to me (given the source - the Twilight IMDB board, aheh), considering the site is not in read-only mode, and that some people have been able to get through and update their stuff / review / favorite, but apparently back in the day, when FF.net decided to purge NC-17 fics, they did it under the guise of taking the site down "in remembrance" of 9/11. So, take that as you will.

All I can say is - thank Jeebus we still have Media Miner! At least we anime/manga fic writers aren't going through withdrawals quite as bad as those poor souls only on FF.net, LOL...

ETA: The source of the afore-mentioned rumor. Twilight wank, anyone? LOL.

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That rumor made me laugh, regardless of the source. And if they really do purge the M rated fics? It would probably be because the vast majority of them are NC-17 fics marked as M simply because it's the highest rating the site allows. And I wouldn't blame them at all.

It did make me think that I ought to save my reviews for posterity, on the off chance that anything does happen to my fics... I know that people with vendettas or agendas can get fics removed with surprising quickness, even if FF.net itself doesn't take action against M rated fics in general. So I went to look and realized that all my best reviews are on MediaMiner, so it's no big loss. And besides, I've been expecting at least one of my fics to get removed for inappropriate content almost since I started posting it. XD

I wouldn't blame them at all.

I wouldn't either, though it irritates me that people do that in the first place. I imagine it was a HUGE deal when they purged NC-17 fics from the site (I wasn't around then, but I do remember the dark ages of FF.net when explicit material was allowed; when I actually started writing fanfic it wasn't allowed anymore, LOL). There are plenty of other places to post explicit material, and MM.org doesn't exactly have a "small" following, so I don't get what the deal is, other than people are 1) rebellious or 2) lazy.

It did make me think that I ought to save my reviews for posterity, on the off chance that anything does happen to my fics...

Thank goodness for screengrab is all I can say! :P

So I went to look and realized that all my best reviews are on MediaMiner, so it's no big loss.

I get a pretty equal balance; I can't find the Sess/Kag crowd at MM.org, so I get most of my support for those stories at FF.net.

I imagine it was a HUGE deal when they purged NC-17 fics from the site

It was. Oh, how I remember the bawwing. LOL, I was young and naive enough then that I didn't even know what an NC-17 rating meant or what the hubbub was about.

There are plenty of other places to post explicit material, and MM.org doesn't exactly have a "small" following, so I don't get what the deal is, other than people are 1) rebellious or 2) lazy.

I'm gonna go with "lazy" as my choice. They want the quick influx of lots of readers that ff.net brings.

Thank goodness for screengrab is all I can say! :P

I just chucked 'em all into an html file. That way I can delete the ones I never want to see again and pretend they never existed. LOL

I get a pretty equal balance; I can't find the Sess/Kag crowd at MM.org, so I get most of my support for those stories at FF.net.

I get more reviews at FF.net, but they mostly tend to be of the "update soon!" variety (but to be honest, my hit:review ratio is about the same at any of the main sites). I much prefer the quality of reviews that I get over at MediaMiner, even if I get more hits/reviews at FF.net...

It was. Oh, how I remember the bawwing. LOL, I was young and naive enough then that I didn't even know what an NC-17 rating meant or what the hubbub was about.

LMAO...I always seem to miss the big wank! All I know is, when I visited in high school, NC-17 was allowed. I didn't think about fanfiction for five years (if not more), and when I finally circled back, NC-17 wasn't allowed anymore. I've heard rumblings about it since, but am somehow glad I wasn't around for it.

I just re-read the stuff about Cassie Clare's plagiarism in the Harry Potter fandom, and how FF.net was brought to its knees by all the bitching. Happened about the same time, as far as I can tell.

Oh, FF.net: never change!

I'm gonna go with "lazy" as my choice. They want the quick influx of lots of readers that ff.net brings.

Agreed - but I think some people post explicit content there specifically because they aren't supposed to. Really, it's not that hard to make a cut - and the actual act of violence/sex shouldn't be *that* integral to your story, IMO, that you have to leave all the cold & clinical details intact.

I just chucked 'em all into an html file. That way I can delete the ones I never want to see again and pretend they never existed. LOL

Screengrab is awesomesauce. If ever I follow through on that threat of a fandom expose, it will be my lifesaver :)

I get more reviews at FF.net, but they mostly tend to be of the "update soon!" variety (but to be honest, my hit:review ratio is about the same at any of the main sites). I much prefer the quality of reviews that I get over at MediaMiner, even if I get more hits/reviews at FF.net...

I have a nice balance - I get good reviews at FF.net on some of my stories, but also the "update soon plz" sorts. I don't get a lot of reviews at MM.org, but they tend to be of a higher quality overall. I'd be upset if my M-rated fics (like Four Seasons, which has no explicit content but deals with a rather sensitive issue) were purged, because I received awesome feedback for them there. Not that I haven't transferred those reviews elsewhere to love and squee over them in private, but still. To those who judge a fic by its reviews, those are some pretty nice recommendations to have :)

Oh, I am going totally crazy. I finally just edited another doc in the doc section and have my latest up in the doc database, but now I'm trying to get it to acknowledge that I have accepted their guidelines. Maybe I'll get this stupid piece loaded today and feel like I can write something new. If not, well, my original story and my spinning wheel are here, waiting to be used. I got so much spinning done yesterday. Finished a ball of yarn that's almost enough to knit a sock.

I'm not too worried about posting there...I've got four other potential places to post, though feedback isn't as good on those sites. Plus, if everyone is still having trouble signing in, it's not like getting my stuff posted *now* will do any good on the feedback front, anyway - only anons can leave reviews, if even that! :P

And can we imagine the crapload of stuff that will be uploaded there if/when this "glitch" ever gets fixed...*shudder*

For me, it's my monthly hits...the hit counter is working, even if it gets hard to see it...and I'm darned close to a record number of hits...and seeing that hit counter is the best motivator I have that keeps me writing when I don't feel like writing...can I get it just a little higher? Can I break last month's totals? That motivates me a lot more than any other feedback...LOL.

It's silly, but whatever it takes to keep at the day to day grind. It's been working, too. I'm much better at daily writing now than before they started doing the monthly totals.

Oh, hits...mine are so depressingly low. I hate their new graphs, where it shows daily/monthly amounts. I always go to the "old" traffic page, where I can pretend those nice big numbers are all new, different people who have discovered (and enjoyed!) my work, and look how popular some of them are, what's grabbing attention more than others, etc etc. If I have to stare down the grim reality of the fact that I don't get many daily visits, I'd never write again, LOL!

I like MM.org's hit counter even if its wrong...at least its cumulative on the main page.

I'm actually trying not to write so much, because I have other, more important things to concentrate on, but sometimes the muses are more sirens than anything else. If only I could make a living doing this, I'd die happy :P

I hear ya about making a living at it. I'm plotting the story of a couple at the end of the American Revolution, and how they deal with life during the first decade after the war. They start in a community near Reading, PA and end up in Kentucky. This is a story I've been playing with off and on for awhile, but lately the urge to write it again is getting pretty strong.

I've written a few sketches in the past about them, but all of a sudden, I realized that I didn't have enough data about life right at the end of the war, so I am digging that up...

I haven't done anything original in so long, I fear that I won't ever be able to again :P It's irrational, but there you go. All of the ideas knocking around in my brain right now are fandom-specific: if I tried to use them with original characters, they wouldn't work, because I'd have to recreate histories for them that are just too close to Inuyasha for my personal tastes.

When I want to be original, I want to be original, dammit! That is rather the point of the exercise, after all...

Well, I've been thinking about this story a long time...not to say nothing from my fanfic thoughts might not blend in, but late 18th century IS my fun non-fanfic time period right now...I even do historical reenacting in it.

First this story was just going to be about them going to Kentucky in 1790, but now I've gotten interested in the immediate post Rev War impact on families, and decided to push it back.

Next on my agenda for that tale is a trip out to Pennsylvania. If I'm lucky, it'll be this spring sometime. (Hubby has ancestral roots in the place we want to go, and one of his ancestors was kind of important in the Rev War and I'm trying to nudge him into working on a biography of him).

That's awesome! :) I'd love to have an excuse to travel for fic-researching/writing purposes.

My original stuff is mostly late 19th-century period historical fiction/romance set in any myriad of European countries. This is directly related to the fact that most of the romance I read is that ubiquitous Victorian-era "European history" sort, you know, Regencies with sex LOL. Plus, my general love of history is centered around Europe, and being here is like soaking it all in.

Too bad being here is coinciding with writing in late 1500s Japan, LOL.

I've contemplated the idea of transforming Memento Mori into something original, but the roadblock is that it's rather intricately tied to the Inuyasha canon. I guess that's what made it such a successful (*snort*) piece of fanfic; losing that aspect would definitely take away not only from the story, but the core of the characters themselves.

But in general, I can't write a contemporary setting that well, and, well, 16th century Japan is in no way related to 19th century Europe...so while I'm having fun writing fanfic, it's not really helping me develop original fiction in any meaningful way. (Not that I'm using it as a stepping stone - I find fanfic has plenty of its own merits, and is no "worse" than writing "real" fiction. But that probably warrants its own post.)

I have bought so many real books on 16th century Japan that I'm going to have to write something real eventually...although it might not be fiction...but my American Civil war and 18th C book collections are probably bigger, especially when I add in the craft related books...Let me know if you ever have any questions about Victorian knitting...I know a lot, have a nice little collection of original books on the subject, and have privately published a few small pattern books on the subject...LOL.

LOL, will do! :) It would certainly be a chance of pace from all those poor misses who only know how to embroider... :P

By constantly hitting refresh, I finally got my stupid last poem listed at FF...

Maybe now my muses will come back to play....LOL.

*standing ovation* I've refreshed a billion times. The site still hates me :(

I have too...and must have done another billion times this morning...but once in a blue moon a page will work...each step of the way took forever.

You can download a Mozzila firefox plugin that will automatically refresh the page every 5-10-15 or 30 seconds... that may help. (I believe it's called, 'refresh every')

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Oh I *love* that plugin.
It wasn't giving me any luck last night tho :( Dumb ff.net...
Today it's working fine, though - yay!!

I am glad that I found other fanfic sites to read from as FF use to be my only one. Now I only go there to update my own stories and to read those few fics that I am subscribed to. Of course, I have found most of those authors on other sites now. All but Tally, I think.

I actually prefer reading at FF.net than at MM.org because you can adjust the page size - and on a widescreen monitor, it can be tiring to read a document that stretches the entire length, LOL. Other than that, I honestly prefer MM.org as my "primary" archive - much easier to use, bar none. I don't read a lot at FF.net anymore, mostly going there to update my fics and support my favorites :)

I've been giggling at the fallout, too. It's been incredibly distracting and for that I'm thankful! :-)

Yes, for all they call it the "Pit of Voles" and how its 90% crap, the minute it goes down they're mourning it like a lost lover - I couldn't help but LOL!! Hypocrisy, get you some :P

I know, right?
"I HATE FF.NET IT'S FILLED WITH AWFUL HORRIBLE TRITE STORIES; ABSOLUTE CRAP, I TELL THEE!"
*5 seconds later*
"NOOOOOOOOOO FF.NET COME BACK TO MEEEEEE!"

*blinkblink* You... don't know what you have 'til it's gone, apparently, *snickers*

Or the people who are like, "FEED MY FANFICTION ADDICTION, FF.NET!!!!!!!"

Er...okay. I think we can safely assume you now officially spend too much time on the internet if you can't 1) go more than a day without reading fanfiction of *some* sort, or 2) can't find a place to read it other than FF.net.

I wish I had that much free time to read (or write).

Seriously - when I noticed ff.net was down, I began reading at mm.org.
And ED.
I've got back-ups!! *le gasp*

There's just so many other places to look... how do people not know these things?? I'm tempted to make a big post about it *facepalm*

Maybe we're lucky, in that we *do* have specific pairing sites to go to, but honestly? I'm surprised at how many people don't seem to know about MM.org, no matter what fandom they're in. They host non-anime stuff there too OHNOES! I did direct someone to it, but I don't know how much I want to "let the cat out of the bag," so to speak - I don't want MM.org to have server woes, too, because of the flood of people coming in from FF.net :P

Ooooh... that's a good point.
I was going to make a post going "OH HAI GUYZ IT'S OKAY" but now that you mention it... yeah, I don't want mm.org dying a slow, painful death!
*whispers* It'll be our little secret ;)

Well, I would really like to know what these 'backups' are - and you can tell me, because I don't have anything up at mm.org anyway, so I won't contribute to any slow painful death, IN FACT, I'll make you a deal... You give me ONE other site where I can search by pairing and I'll actually go to mm.org and MAKE a profile and start to post there too! *Bats eyes, gets on hands and knees, begs shamelessly*

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I have to admit, aff.net and ff.net are the only two places I've found to search by pairing. That's one thing I'd *love* to see at mm.org... I'd give my husband's left nut for it!

Edit: I'm dumb and forgot http://www.inuyasha-fanfiction.com/ has archiving by pairing, too!

Edited 2009-02-25 01:11 (UTC)

It's not the end of the world but it is annoying. I just want to post a new chapter goddammit! *grumbles* I sincerely hope that removing the M stories is a rumour. If it's truth that goes pretty much everything I have posted at FF.net.

I know...I've actually got a large following for Fleeting over at FF.net, so it'd be nice if those readers could read this (long-delayed) update to that series :P Hopefully they will get their shit together sooner rather than later...

PS, YES, I'm complaining about FF.net, but I'm also not FREAKING OUT that I can't log-in... I'd actually MUCH rather move to a different site, but AFF is like the badlands of fanfiction, and MM.org I have a feeling most of my readers would have NO IDEA how to find my stories, since you can't search by pairing.

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Link your readers to your profile page (or the specific fic) and they'll have access to all your stuff. That's all I can tell you; but you should consider it if you've had issues at both FF.net and AFF.

Thanks for the advice, I'll have to go to mm.org and make a profile and figure out how to post there. I've heard it's easy.

I haven't had 'issues' of any kind, I just notice the reviews I get at ff.net are things like 'Plz update cuz ur storie is sooo gud!', and AFF I thought was mostly for PWP type stuff, not actual STORIES, (I mean, there are a few actual stories, but not many), and I like to have a little plot with my lemon, y'know?

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I have 68 M rated stories on FF.net and just spent the last 1 1/2 hours backing them all up via copy/paste, because I had a hard drive crash awhile back and some of those stories ONLY existed THERE. If they didn't give people NOTICE and just YANKED the stories that is pretty mean-spirited.

FF.net is full of 13yr olds and FAIL lately though!

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Oh, forgot to add that I had an idea nibble at me today for my giftfic to you while I was driving home. I hope you like sensual :)

Edited 2009-02-24 22:46 (UTC)

I hope you like sensual :)

Considering the "inspiration" I gave you...why am I not surprised, LOL.

And do I like sensual? See my next post, LOL :P

Thanks for the info/RUMOR. XD

Well, I suffered a Hard Drive Crash awhile back, and so, some of my FF.net stories have NO BACKUPS!

Just IN CASE I just spent the last HOUR AND HALF copy/pasting all my M rated stuff into word files and re-saving it all to a memory stick.

If I remember correctly, the last time they 'purged' they gave the authors NO NOTICE at ALL...

This... Mediaminer you speak of... I think I've been there - but you can't search by pairing, can you? Hmmm... I MAY need to consider getting an account there anyway. Anything I should know if I DO?

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Well, I was able to update about an hour ago, with no difficulties - and all of my stuff was still there, best I could tell.

No, you can't search by pairing at MM.org, but it's 100x easier to use and navigate than FF.net, in my opinion. They don't censor material based on ratings (and you have a bit more flexibility in said ratings). The quality of reviews tends to be better as well.

I've not had any issues with them as long as I've been there.

Just food for thought.

The thing is, I have some stories that are 'M' Rated that aren't even SEX... some just deal with things that I wouldn't want younger readers reading, so I put up VERY EXTENSIVE warnings and ALWAYS rate on the 'high' side of things.

I don't know, either way, I'd like to expand beyond ff.net, which seems like it has a younger reader base than some of the other sites, and I needed to back up those files anyway.

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None of my M-rated stories at FF.net contain sex (all lemons excised, LOL).

You can also try http://www.inuyasha-fanfiction.com/ it's a small archive but it is open to adult ratings and all pairings.

You SO ROCK!

I don't mind a smaller pool of higher quality fics VS a large amount of badfic... I'll take quality over quantity ANY day!

Thank you so much for all your help :)

I'm setting up the profile at mm.org right now - this is, actually, remarkably easy...

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lulz.

In the NC-17 purge there was advance notice and a couple of reminders before the stories went down. I had only recently found the site and quickly downloaded every NC-17 story that looked at all interesting I could over the weekend before the purge only to find that most of them were total crap and not worth keeping.

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