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LuxKen27 ([personal profile] luxken27) wrote2009-10-03 10:01 pm
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Inuyasha: The Final Act | 1 - Naraku's Heart

So the subbed episodes of the anime are up, both at Hulu and Shonen Sunday. I was able to watch it commercial-free at Hulu (guess I got back to the States just in time, LOL) and it was a pretty action-packed ride! Its nice to see everything animated again, and it'll be interesting to see how much of the story they cut and/or simplify.

I guess it's what we expected, considering only 26 episodes were ordered, in order to cover 21 volumes (approx 210 chapters) of manga. Even with the filler arcs, that's still shaving it mighty close to still include all the important stuff.

So I went and had a look ~ they skipped the medicine seller arc altogether (Chapters 357-358) and started with material from Chapter 359, "Hitoukon," where the little youkai that overpowers hosts is introduced in the form of a mountain dog. In the anime, Kohaku deals with this demon himself, with no help/intervention from the Inutachi, and he catches up to Kagura, to have the discussion of the location of Naraku's heart that's covered in chapter 368. The actual death of Goryoumaru is related to the Inutachi via a heated discussion between Kagura and Hakudoshi, instead of the way it was depicted in approximately five chapters of the manga, where both the Inutachi and Sesshoumaru fought with the newly transformed Mouryoumaru. The episode covers the betrayal and death of Hakudoshi, and leads directly into the end of Kagura's fate.

I was actually pretty impressed with the first episode, even if they did condense and simplify ten chapters of manga action into 24 minutes of playtime. The animation is reminiscent of the movies instead of the first anime, which has its strong and weak points. I liked the animation of Kagura's dance of blades (very impressive), and the adamant barrage attack, but the rest seemed a bit stilted, in the style of the movies. I was surprised and pleased to see at least a cameo from every major character in the series (the only one who didn't have any face time was Kaede), and splices of daily life from both the modern and feudal eras. We saw Naraku's group first, then Kagome's friends at her school, which lead to a LOL-worthy cut to Sesshoumaru's group (poor, put-upon Jaken!), and finally back to the reunited Inutachi. Even Koga and Kikyo had moments of action against Mouryoumaru. Instead of a dreaded "catch-up" episode, the second anime jumped right back into the story, so glossing over as much as they did feels a bit more forgivable.

It appears the next episode will be Kagura's death (and Koga's fight for the gorashi, which is being subbed as "Lightning Claws"), and the scenes we've seen via the preview here and the longer-cut preview at Shonen Sunday make me think its really going to be a good one! Goodness knows they spent most of this episode trying to redeem Kagura and make her sympathetic o.O But, Kagura's death means more facetime for Sesshoumaru, so you won't hear any complaints from this department :D Maybe it will breathe a bit more life into that ship, as the modern-day scenes from this episode will delight those Inu/Kag fans.

All in all, this was pretty good ~ if they can stay away from packing 10 chapters' worth of storyline into an episode, then I like the chances of seeing my favorite arcs coming to life: the Hell arc (with SessMom OMG!!!!!), Kikyo's death, Bakusaiga, and the rebirth of Hiraikotsu...before the big showdown. *fingers crossed*

Of the new opening/ending, I like the ending better - the song is pretty fast-paced, and it chronicles all of the important relationships between the characters in the story, starting with the brothers and ending with the red thread of destiny, tying Inuyasha and Kagome together. That was a magnificent piece of animation IMO, and here's hoping it'll be attached to most of the episodes!

[identity profile] sakura-kyoshi.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
*I* can't wait for it to become a season so I can watch it over and over and over and over and over and over...

[identity profile] sakura-kyoshi.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
I know, but still. That doesn't make me wanting it any less... wanting. :-)

[identity profile] eggplantlady.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
I hated it. The Japanese voices make me want to -headdesk- so hard. -sigh- The only thing that surprised me was seeing Kagura and Kohaku get as much screentime as they did. I was expecting a lot more of Inuyasha and Kagome. The fact that I'm 90% certain any/all Mir/San stuff will get cut from this or glossed over totally has nothing to do with my annoyance.

[identity profile] eggplantlady.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
I watched a couple of the other episodes earlier today as a refresher for some fics I want(ed) to write... so I'm kind of overloaded on the Japanese voice-hate.

then again...considering it was the first episode, how much can we ask for? :-/

Not much, apparently. I don't know that I'll be going out of my way to watch the rest, if it's just going to be glossing over everything in an attempt to cram the last third of the manga (give or take) into 26 episodes. -sigh-

I'm going to be PISSED if they skip the Hell arc.

I have to admit, I've never bothered to read the Hell arc, but it's one of those things I doubt they'll cut (at least not entirely). I'm up in the air about the Hiraikotsu thing, as to whether or not I think they'll leave it in. Time will tell, I guess. Not getting my hopes up, though. They had better not fuck up Kagura's death or anything from chapter 523 or I will stop watching omfg

Times like this I really, really hate my unending fascination with and attraction to minor characters. Why can't I like the main character(s) for once? Why is it always the expendable secondary characters with me? -sigh- (LOL)

[identity profile] eggplantlady.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
I'm one of the few who can't stand Kappei Yamaguchi's Inuyasha voice.

-raises hand- Guilty as charged. Also can't stand Miroku or Sango or... well, okay, the only ones I actually didn't mind were Kagome and Kagura, at least for the "main" characters. And Kagura dies soon, so... XD

I wouldn't be surprised at all if quite a bit of Sesshoumaru's part gets cut here at the end

LOL I'm expecting quite a bit of everything to get cut... except Kagome angsting over Inuyasha/Kikyou. -rolls eyes- I really hope I'm wrong about this stuff. I don't want the series to suck, but after watching it today my enthusiasm sort of died. Hardcore.

[identity profile] kmoaton.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
I don't like Inuyasha' voice either!

[identity profile] knittingknots.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
And I loathe the English dub...loathe, loathe, loathe it.

Oh well.

Kohaku, and his shard is an important factor in this part of the story...how to keep Kohaku alive while taking out Naraku is part of Inu's motivation, Kikyou wants to use Kohaku's shard as a way to deliver a poison pill to Naraku, and it's Kohaku who will eventually free Kagome from the time Naraku had grabbed her, and in having Naraku take his shard, gave the now dead Kikyou a chance to fully redeem herself from the need for revenge by choosing to save Kohaku's life instead of going onto kill Naraku, thus putting the whole job of purifying the jewel into Kagome's hands. He's a pretty important plot device...and he's important in the death of Kagura, and how that impacts Sessh...so, I'm not surprised it got pushed here.

I was pretty pleased with the episode.

Since they only got the go-ahead for one season, it's gonna be a lot of material to cover. So far, in my opinion as someone who has condensed material before, they did a nice job.

[identity profile] knittingknots.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
Someone bitch? In the InuYasha fandom? Surely you jest! LOL. Yeah, I hear ya.
psyco_chick32: (Frustrated - InuYasha)

[personal profile] psyco_chick32 2009-10-04 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Not that that will stop anyone *shrug*

Nothing will EVER stop people from bitching in the IY fandom.
EVER.

*le sigh*

ESPECIALLY the manga vs. anime people. Except you know, fr the people like us who can just accept both -_-;;
LOGIC LE GASP NO WAI

[identity profile] kriscynical.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
I'm one of the few you can't stand Kappei Yamaguchi's Inuyasha voice.

That statement is blasphemous in my household. lol

That may not be lightning, but if you heard a thud that was my jaw hitting the floor at the anti-Japanese cast sentiment floating around. As [livejournal.com profile] knittingknots said further down, I cannot and I mean absolutely CAN NOT STAND the English cast. We're talking loathing with the fire of a thousand suns here. Just thinking about it gives me a headache. XP

It's funny how people can have such drastically different opinions about the same thing.

[identity profile] kriscynical.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 06:22 am (UTC)(link)
...if you were introduced via the dub, that's prolly where your allegiance will lie.

Not necessarily true. I got into this series because I accidentally caught the premiere of the very first episode on Adult Swim back in 2002. I got all the way up through the first block of Adult Swim episodes before finally discovering torrents and fansubs... I've never looked back since and I wonder how in the hell I watched that many episodes in English to begin with. To me, it sounds like the "nails on a chalkboard" you mentioned, paired with (in my opinion) horrendous acting. :P

The only case I can really think of for myself in which I prefer the English to the Japanese (well, besides the Miyazaki movies sans the Disney dub of Totoro) in a series is Black Jack. I found that series in the animation section of Blockbuster when I was in high school and once I got ahold of the DVDs rather than VHS, I can listen to the Japanese but I prefer the English.

[identity profile] kriscynical.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 06:41 am (UTC)(link)
You will never be able to convince me David Kaye is bad at anything <3

I will admit that David Kaye is one of the only things about the dub I like. You will never hear me say that about Richard Cox or Monica Stori, though. >_>

(Though I have to admit, I did the D: face when people asked if we'd have the English voice cast on these simulcast episodes... *facepalm*)

It's amazing how well the "D:" captures the look of abject horror that goes along with a question like that. lol

[identity profile] piratequeen0405.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
Very condensed, but like you I was happy that it wasn't a catch-up episode...especially since they are fitting sooo much story into so few episodes.

I'm giddy with excitement over Kikyou's death and the Hell arc. Kikyou is my favorite character and her death scene always make me weepy. Ahhh I'm the biggest sucker for unrequited love and Inuyasha's reaction never fails to hit me hard. Such a wonderful way to bring a bit of closure to the "love triangle".

I also liked the ending better. The song was fitting with the level of action (though there was some serious melancholy) and the red thread at the very end worked so well visually.

*sigh* I'd been checking shonensunday off and on through the afternoon, evening. Now I'm just so ready for bed!

[identity profile] replicantangel.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
It has been SO long since I watched the original anime (*looks at DVDs and apologizes*) that it was kind of weird. Half the time, I was wondering, "Was... was that how they did that in the original?" LoL. It *was* condensed - that fight with Goryoumaru alone would have taken 2 episodes in the old series. But I was glad of the Kagura face time - I love her a lot, although I'm usually repelled by the Sess/Kagura pairing, so next episode might be difficult for me. :P

I would love to see SessMom and the Hell arc too, but otherwise, I'm pretty cool with what they decide to cut... except the ending. We got gypped out of a kiss in the manga, so I hope there's one in this series. While I would like them to actually go in depth into everything, I'm not one of those purists that has to have everything follow the book (or in this case, manga). I dunno - overall, I liked it and was SO glad there wasn't a recap episode.

Um, and did anyone else giggle their face off in the opening credits when Shippo and Jaken were playing what looked like Red Light, Green Light?

[identity profile] replicantangel.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
the fact that its being continued at all is nothing short of a miracle, so at this point, I'm content to take what I can get.

Exactly. I'm kind of at the point where the deal-breaker if Inuyasha dies and the world explodes, like it does in all of the "serious" anime. LoL!

I like Sess/Kagura - its the only 'canon' ship of his that I'll readily support - but the best part of all is that we'll have more than two seconds of face-time with him, which is enough to make me happy...for now.

Oh, yes - anytime with Sesshoumaru is good time! :D And you know, my problem with Sess/Kagura is not so much the canon or even the *idea* - it's how most fanfic handles it. They take out all the fire and independence and bitchiness from Kagura (i.e. all the bits that make me love her) and decide that she has to be tamed for Sesshoumaru to like her. WTF? Argh! I don't know why having Sesshoumaru be sweet to whoever he's paired with is okay with me compared to the pain of seeing Kagura declawed... maybe because I think she already has the capacity to care very much and more toning down isn't needed. I don't know, but it bothers me. /rant :P

Oh, yes. I am perfectly fine with them turning Jaken into blatant comic relief :D

He's one of my favorites! Hehe.

[identity profile] replicantangel.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
Hehe, I don't get much of it from my f-list, so I'll take what I can! =)

*is here for all Sesshoumaru-related fangirling needs*

I'd think he'd become bored of her if there was no challenge but meh, that's just my read

Exactly. And *she* becomes boring too. Ah, it just kills me on the inside! So I gave up. But maybe I'll check out Unleashed. :D

[identity profile] replicantangel.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 06:31 am (UTC)(link)
Did I mention it's based on a NIN song? :D

SOLD.

[identity profile] caitriona695.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Um, and did anyone else giggle their face off in the opening credits when Shippo and Jaken were playing what looked like Red Light, Green Light?

I rewound and watched it again. Completely had me giggling at the beginning.

[identity profile] kmoaton.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
I'm hoping that maybe the rush job will allow them to spend more time on some of the more sensitive episodes like the Hell arc, Kikyo's death, Bakusaiga, and the rebirth of Hiraikotsu. We have GOT to see Sessmom! I hope and pray they don't leave her out!!!

[identity profile] kmoaton.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
I have a feeling its all going to be this rushed, unless they're just going to leave things out, wholesale

I have the same feeling. There are so many moments I'd love to see animated. I agree with Eggplantlady, I really hope they don't butcher the Miroku/Sango moments in the manga. It's just so many moments to choose from!! I'm almost afraid to think of what they might cut!

[identity profile] kriscynical.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
Butting in to say that's what I'm thinking. I'd rather they rush this stuff now and do those arcs as well as the battle with Naraku on through to the epilogue the "right" way.

[identity profile] kmoaton.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. Those arcs and the end battle should really be played out in full.

[identity profile] kriscynical.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
I'm glad to hear at least somebody seems pleased with it besides me. Everybody is, of course, entitled to their own opinion, but I'm getting tired of all the complaining and neysaying already happening all around the fandom. We're lucky to even be getting this, and I'm looking at it that way. If it has to be the manga on speed in order to fit it all into 26 episodes, so be it. I was mainly happy just to hear the Japanese cast back together again (the English cast makes my ears bleed, omfg.) and get the little InuKag tidbits you mentioned. I can't wait for the next episode. :)

[identity profile] kriscynical.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 06:16 am (UTC)(link)
I hear ya! I made this post and then went and read everyone else's and was like, "WTF?!" Geez! Its a small miracle the anime is being finished in the first place, after five years!

This. This is what I keep saying. I find it astounding that there's already so much negativity back in the fandom after just... *counts*... good Lord, like five hours?! If you hate it that much, don't watch the rest of the episodes. :/ It took the original anime 167 episodes to cover roughly 35 books of manga (give or take the fillers). You're not going to get every detail you want when they're having to cram 21 books into 26 episodes. Be thankful for what you've got!

It gives me hope for a kiss!

Oh God me too. My mother as well... we said the same things after seeing all of the tidbits. The focus on the InuKag relationship seems much stronger to us than it was in the original series, and this is a good thing.

[identity profile] kriscynical.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 06:38 am (UTC)(link)
The capacity of this fandom to wank that hard in that short a period of time surprises you? :P LOL, okay, okay - I admit, most of the wank I'm aware of is centered in S/K right now...

I wouldn't know; I've kept to myself in my little corner of LJ and DA posting my arts and having them deleted as kiddie porn. I stayed out of the mainstream fandom just because I got tired of all the wank and stupidity. I plan to continue keeping to myself with my DVDs and pencils.

...and I have never and never will touch S/K. Just not my cuppa' tea.

I hope the anime team realizes what a chance they have to "make up for" the lack of a kiss in the manga...

Hey, they already put one in the second movie. I'll actually be pretty surprised if they don't add one in to the anime now.

...geez I need to dig through my hard drive and re-upload all my old Inu icons..

[identity profile] caitriona695.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh God me too. My mother as well... we said the same things after seeing all of the tidbits. The focus on the InuKag relationship seems much stronger to us than it was in the original series, and this is a good thing.

If nothing else, the red-thread ending shows us that they are really taking a good look at that relationship, not just action, killing and comedic relief.

[identity profile] caitriona695.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
icon love!
psyco_chick32: (Default)

[personal profile] psyco_chick32 2009-10-04 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG YOUR ICON.
*grabby hands*
(just a bit of drive-by icon squee)

[identity profile] beermoney5.livejournal.com 2009-10-04 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I’m assuming you can only watch the new episodes on the Internet or am I wrong. I’m not familiar with Hulu and Shonen Sunday.

I might just wait till it’s dubbed. It seems I’m the only one who likes the English version better then the Japanese. I like all their voices in English and hope the same cast comes back. I will be very disappointed if David Kaye doesn’t return.

[identity profile] landofthekwt.livejournal.com 2009-10-05 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
I cannot stand Kappei. I know that RT is his fangirl, but they have changed so many scenes so that he can yell his stupid attacks.

While I enjoyed a lot of the canon scenes, I did not like the additional scenes where Hakudoshi steals the shards or Kikyou saving Kouga . The original was important because Moryomaru discovers IY's human night and Jaken reveals that Kagura has told Sesshoumaru where to find Naraku's heart which guarantees Kagura's death. That scene is great because IY will not get out of Moromaru's body and Fluffy says OK I will kill both of them. Sesshoumaru reveals his feelings for Kagura by preventing Jaken from saying that Kagura gave them the crystals which will lead to the heart.( He says enough that Moryomaru figures it out.) Why did they not show SEsshoumaru saving IY. Re: Kouga If the anime had shown the birth of Moryomaru the manga way they would not need to include this fight.Instead they cut Kouga
out of the birth of Moryomaru.

All in all I was impressed. The scene from the Kind Boy and the two Mirokus
actually comes way down the line. I always liked the Kind Boy scene because it shows the actual relation between IY and Kagome not IY abuse of Kagome that is prevalent in both IK and SK. She really is scary and he really is afraid of her.

[identity profile] yumi-michiyo.livejournal.com 2009-10-06 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I must say I found the new episode rather good. Despite their cutting out the Medicine Seller arc (which I found unforgivable - I mean, they spent an entire episode on the Master of the Lake arc! Yes, I love filler. I love to pieces Miroku/Sango and Sango/Kohaku filler) they did a fantastic job with the rest of the cramming. It was a whirlwind ride after I got used to the slow pace of the first 167 episodes.

The opening and ending songs were gorgeous. I practically worship DAI; it's great to see them back with new songs. But the ending was a pleasant surprise, although the animation could have done with a little less from the previous anime...

Meh... why is there an outburst of dislike for the Japanese seiyuus? I have to agree with [livejournal.com profile] knittingknots and [livejournal.com profile] kriscynical here: I cannot stand the English dub. However, I confess to not being overly fond of Yamaguchi-san's voice... but the rest of the cast kicks ass. In my opinion, so much of the jokes and character gets lost in translation... But each to their own.

That being said, I will cut some bitches if any more filler arcs get cut (looking forward to seeing the Hiraikotsu arc, the wounds of shouki and the Kitsune Inn... and they'd better do the final battle properly!)

*deep breathing* That's over and done with.