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LuxKen27 ([personal profile] luxken27) wrote2009-01-03 01:02 am
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Fandom Meme

Here's an interesting meme that's been making the rounds on my f-list.

If you've read any of my work, these answers should come as no surprise, LOL...

Fandom: Inuyasha

Favorite character: Sesshoumaru. I could make a case study out of him and never get tired of it, LOL :)
Least Favorite Character: Hakudoshi. God I hated that smarmy arrogant little brat!
Character with the best hair: Sesshoumaru (although maybe I only feel this way because I've spent so much time describing it in fics, LOL!)
Character with the best eyes: They *all* have great eyes (see default icon)
Character I'd most want to kiss: Sesshoumaru. He's too icy and pretty to resist!!
Character I'd most likely screw: None of them, but if they were a harem and I had my pick...Sesshoumaru. The hair, the beautiful beautiful curtain of silvery hair! *swoon*
Character I'd make lunch: Sango. She's a fascinating character and we'd have lots to chat about!
Character I'd go singing in the rain with: Sango. We stoic silent types let off steam in the craziest ways, hehe :)
Character I'd go shopping with: Kagome
Character I'd go dancing with: Miroku, Mr. Social Butterfly
Character I'd take over the world with: I'm totally riding Sesshoumaru's coattails on this one
Favorite Pairing: I'm an Inu/Kag girl at heart, but I'm really enjoying exploring the Sess/Kag dynamic as well.
Favorite Yaoi pairing: Not my thing
Favorite Yuri pairing: Still not my thing. I'm a boring het pairing person :-/

[identity profile] knittingknots.livejournal.com 2009-01-03 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Nothing wrong with being a het pairing person!, she says being one herself. Let's all enjoy what we like to do without guilt.

We won't talk about which het pairs, though...LOL...;0)

[identity profile] knittingknots.livejournal.com 2009-01-03 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
I'm just a hard core canon kid. It's the scenario that grabbed me first, and that's what I love. You could say my OTP is the setup/concept, especially from chapt. 494 on, of InuYasha...but I'm cool with what anybody likes to play with, personally. I've extrapolated my own little corner to play with and I hope everybody finds their happy spot, too.

[identity profile] knittingknots.livejournal.com 2009-01-03 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
The fun part...exactly.

I enjoy writing MS, and don't do it nearly often enough, since IK seem to devour most of my creative juices. I like Miroku as a person a whole lot. I use him in my fics a whole lot cause I think he's clever and wise and witty and not so likely to rush into things and he's educated and not afraid to bend the rules. And Inu will listen to him.

I really need to spend some more time with those two.

[identity profile] kmoaton.livejournal.com 2009-01-03 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
I see you have Sess totally on the brain! LOL The icon is wonderful and one day soon, I'll steal it.

As for being a het. pairing person, I can feel you there. Try as I might, I just can't do it!

[identity profile] kmoaton.livejournal.com 2009-01-03 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
Your desktop pic is so AWESOME!! JoJo really did it with that one. I'm glad you won't let the crazy fangirls run your life or destroy your writing. Some people get fangirls and their writing starts to suck afterwards. It's almost as if they know anything they write will be loved by the rabid fans so they stop putting any effort into it.

As for the 15 I've debating of if I want to pay for a subscription just so I can have more than 15. Only time will tell!

[identity profile] eggplantlady.livejournal.com 2009-01-03 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
Oh jeez, het people (and fics) are sooooo boring! =P

I think I felt some brain cells die just saying that...

I have no idea what I'd answer for most of this meme. lol

[identity profile] eggplantlady.livejournal.com 2009-01-03 02:30 pm (UTC)(link)
At this point I am well aware of my (selective) fandom "blindness" and how awful a person it makes me. Then again, canon pretty much has to beat me over the head with any given pairing for me to see it at all...

The people who prefer yaoi and yuri and whatnot are free to see the "subtext" if they want, and they are free to read and write what they want. I've no problem with that. What I hate are the insults and the accusations of homophobia (because I don't think two characters are gay? Really?) and the weird fangirl/fanboy rants about how "canon" a pairing is when it's obvious to more open-minded individuals that it's not canon at all but still possible to write and enjoy - and the insinuation that people who don't see the supposed subtext or like the pairing are stupid.

[identity profile] eggplantlady.livejournal.com 2009-01-03 03:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I've not come across any accusations of being homophobic because I don't write slash (good thing this fandom isn't more slashtastic, I say), but I've seen it on the various rant and secret comms.

I got it in a fandom based on a musical. From morons who didn't realize that gay actor does not equal gay character and that each performance of each production (and there have been many vastly different productions since the first one opened in '81) is going to be slightly different. It makes it a fun and challenging fandom to write for, but apparently not writing about gay cats - and they just have to pick the one cat it would be most ooc for to be the "top" in the one true slash pairing, too - makes me a homophobe. Then again this is also the fandom that thinks that two characters dancing next to each other makes a pairing.

...and then you get into the people who slash real people, which just makes me o.O and back away slowly.

RPF and RPS scare me... I stay far, far away whenever possible.

I don't like to get involved in wank if I can help it

Agreed. So very much agreed. I wish more people would take that approach, or at least make use of a little logic and respect. Someone else liking a pairing that you don't like (or not liking the one that you do) is not an insult. I wish people would stop taking it like one.

I suppose I should count myself lucky that in IY fandom I seem to get more comments saying "I hate this pairing, but your fic is actually good, so yay" than anything else, in terms of pairing-related comments and reviews. I'm sure they mean it as a compliment but if I get another one like that I swear I'm going to lose it. XD

[identity profile] eggplantlady.livejournal.com 2009-01-03 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Is there a line you *won't* cross when you start slashing the federal government?!

lol, Apparently not. For some reason political slash amuses me more than it horrifies me. I still wouldn't read any of it, but the very idea strikes me as hilarious.

Why even mention "I hate this pairing, but...?" Why not just say this was a good story, or whatever, without qualifying the statement?

That's what I don't understand. It's also why I've come to (somewhat jokingly) refer to Mir/San as "the wrong pairing," because I see that come up so often. Maybe it's just me getting that kind of response, I don't know.

I've got 25 more damn chapters to go, it wouldn't be very fun if there wasn't some sort of stumbling block, yes?

Apparently not. I do not understand why people tend to simplify things so much in fanfic. It's always love at first sight. It's always sunshine and roses until the villain comes along, but it always ends happily (and usually after much smexing). And it's always so damn formulaic. I think it's much more interesting when the characters involved are actually, you know, involved in their relationship and when there are, perhaps, hurdles to overcome in order for them to be together.

Are you saying it might not be worth it to foist it upon the world LOL?

Right now? I'm not saying that at all. In fact I'd be quite thrilled to read any Mir/San fics you could come up with (and I'd probably even have a fangirlish spazz before reading it, too, because I love your writing so much XD). On a more cynical day, I'd be tempted to say it isn't worth it... because in a lot of ways it's not. -shrugs-

[identity profile] eggplantlady.livejournal.com 2009-01-03 04:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe all they want is a happy ending (I'm like that sometimes, you just need the teeth-rotting fluff).

True enough. I know I've written my fair share (and maybe more than my fair share) of teeth-rotting fluff... but I try to at least include some sort of plot, conflict, or character development along with the wish fulfillment. XD

Rinse & repeat doesn't work so well for twenty-odd chapters. That shit gets boring, and fast.

I definitely agree. It's why I've stayed away from writing chaptered fic for the most part. I don't entirely trust myself not to fall into that rinse and repeat trap.

I dunno if my writing is worth a fangirlish spazz

Well it's pretty much an automatic reaction I have when an author whose fics I enjoy posts a Mir/San, even if it's just a drabble. I'll read pretty much any Mir/San fic, no matter how awful, so it's a huge bonus to find one that's written by an author I know and like.

It's part of the reason I'm angsting over it so much, because I want to get it right more than I want to get it posted.

I know what you mean. I fought with one of my oneshots for over a year before I posted it. It's only about 4,000 words... it should not have taken a year to write. XD And I'm still not sure I got it right, but at that point I felt that agonizing over it any longer was going to be counterproductive.

I'm always interested in seeing the responses my various fics get, based on pairing or content, and sometimes I've been surprised at the reaction. I think a lot of it depends on where you're posting it, really.

I'm not sure there is a place where one can post Mir/San fic and really get feedback on it or get it noticed. It may be the largest "minority" pairing (after Inu/Kag and Sess/Kag, which are both hugely more popular than all the other pairings put together), but that doesn't really mean much. The vast majority of fics labelled "Mir/San" aren't actually Mir/San, and focus instead on Inu/Kag or Sess/Kag, with little bits of other pairings thrown in just for the sake of throwing them in. Miroku and Sango just get... overlooked, I guess.

I can totally understand why people would be discouraged from writing that pairing. Why write a Mir/San fic and hope for one review when you can write a Sess/Kag or Inu/Kag and get more than twice as many - and for what is apparently considered to be less "work"? Why nominate a Mir/San fic for an award when you know many people will automatically vote for an Inu/Kag or Sess/Kag competitor based on the characters and pairing involved? Aside from sheer stubbornness, of course. ;3

I am trying to get over my phobia of reviewing, because I figure it can't hurt to give more obvious attention to the other Mir/San fics out there (since I read about 95% of them anyway), but there's really only so much one person can do.

I've even considered creating a Mir/San fansite and fic archive (since the one I used to frequent appears to have vanished), but I'm pretty sure that would require more effort than I'm willing to put into it right now. And I'm not sure that, myself excluded, there's really a demand for such a thing anymore.

[identity profile] kmoaton.livejournal.com 2009-01-03 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe it would be a good idea to revive an old site. Is there one in existance? Those of us who love Mir/San should push a little harder to get them out there. I'm game for the challenge.

Sometimes you really have to look at the reasons you are writing. Are you doing it for you or the rabid fangirls. Don't get me wrong, I love reviews but I would rather have a few sincere ones that pages of drek that means nothing. The people who really appreciate your writing also try to help you improve it instead of accepting anything you put out. Recognition is nice but it can't be your only reason for existance.

I can't believe I've started ranting but I think I'm almost finished! LOL

[identity profile] kmoaton.livejournal.com 2009-01-03 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually answered my own question about the Mir/San comm. I found it so I'll start posting Absolution there. So many people have given up on them because they are now an established couple but weren't Inu/Kag, too. I've said before, Mir/San are a challenge because they actually have deeper layers that are rarely explored. No one wants to see Miroku past the hentai they want him to be just like a lot of people act as if Sango is so butch she doesn't need any man. (I started a fic like that and I had to stop, it sickened me!) They deserve love too *sniff*

[identity profile] eggplantlady.livejournal.com 2009-01-03 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Oops, I forgot about that practically defunct community... lol I occasionally post my fic there, too, but it's like a ghost town these days...

[identity profile] kmoaton.livejournal.com 2009-01-03 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
*sigh* Where is the love?

[identity profile] eggplantlady.livejournal.com 2009-01-03 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I definitely agree with you, but my motives are a bit different. I most definitely write what I do because I like it and because it interests me and I adore the characters, and I wouldn't have it any other way. But I post fic publicly because I am interested in what others think (though I tend to disregard the people who only spew copy/pasted praise and demand updates). I have many fics that are not posted publicly and probably never will be, because I either feel they're inappropriate to share or I have no wish for feedback or for other people to read them. But I know that I'm kind of strange in that regard... XD

There was a Mir/San site called Yakusoku to Negai that I stumbled upon early in my forays into IY fandom, but updates were really, really sparse, and now it seems to be gone altogether. I haven't found any others, though that doesn't mean there aren't any out there. I have the know-how and whatnot to make such a site, but I'm not sure I have the resources or the time to do so...

[identity profile] eggplantlady.livejournal.com 2009-01-03 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I've noticed that most good fic tends to get (mostly) overlooked, while mediocre and bad stories get tons of reviews. My brain tells me it should be the opposite, but of course that's not the case. -sigh-

[identity profile] eggplantlady.livejournal.com 2009-01-03 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't force myself to write something I have no feel for (like yaoi, or PWP or really action-heavy stuff) just because its popular.

I agree with everything you've said here... Though I must add that while I write for my own enjoyment, I only post when and if I want feedback. And so it becomes very discouraging to look and see that generic Inu/Kag fic #32559357 has 90 reviews even though the fic itself has no redeeming qualities, while my stories are lucky to get three comments. I know it's stupid, but it still bothers me from time to time.

And don't get me started on the whole awards thing...don't get me wrong, I love being nominated, especially if it means bringing more eyes to my work, but it certainly shouldn't be the be-all end-all goal of a writer *or* a reader.

Oh, I agree. I was just pointing out that it's a bit of an endless cycle where Mir/San is less popular and gets written (and therefore read) less often than more popular pairings, and the fandom at large has fewer reasons to support the people who write Mir/San fic because there are fewer of them and they are less read/less liked, etc. (which means even a spectacular fic is likely to get overlooked in favor of the "popular" pairing), which leads to even fewer people writing it, and so on.

Hm, might be easier to revive the old one than start fresh.

Well, considering I had nothing to do with the old site beyond visiting it about once a month, I don't think it's within my rights to simply "take over" even if I had saved all the files... ;3 But the thought of creating my own site, or at least a livejournal community that would hopefully be more active than the existing one, has crossed my mind more than once of late.

[identity profile] eggplantlady.livejournal.com 2009-01-03 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not at all sure how much work a community here at lj would take... My only real website experience is with the ones I built from scratch and a couple of forums I've moderated. And to be honest, I'm not sure what I'd do with a community. I just think there ought to be another one. lol

[identity profile] ranuel.livejournal.com 2009-02-06 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
I would interpret the "I hate this pairing, but..." comment to mean "Based on the pairing alone I was prepared to dislike your story but I read it anyway because it was nominated for something/my pushy friend wouldn't leave me alone about it/______ and I was surprised by how good it was. I still dislike this pairing in general but you made it work and that's an accomplishment"

I personally would have probably phrased it "I wouldn't have normally read this because I avoid stories featuring this pairing but I'm glad I did because..." or some other more positive version but I can certainly empathize with the sentiment.

[identity profile] landofthekwt.livejournal.com 2009-01-03 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
I guess I read the meme differently than kk and luxken. When I was asked if there was a character I would kiss or screw or a yaoi pairing I like I was not thinking of my personal preference, but what I liked to read. I do like linking Inu/Kik romantically, but it is hard to imagine them having sex together even they do in one of my fics. Inu/Kag I can imagine being more physical together. Even though I read and write Sess/Kag I still have a difficult time reading love scenes between them. I am still working on trying to understand M/S. I have written 4 stories all tied to canon or anime. Hopefully, I will be able to leave the book and explore their relationship
I do like some tasteful yaoi and I have written one yaoi and one yuri piece
after some inspiration by salomesensei and quirkyslayer

[identity profile] zangetsugirl.livejournal.com 2009-01-03 07:03 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmm...do I want to answer the meme here, or inflict it on my whole flist? Here, I think. Why the hell not?

Fandom: Bleach
Favorite character: *eyes username* This question always amuses me. Zangetsu.
Character with the best hair: Either Ukitake or Matsumoto.
Character with the best eyes: Hitsugaya. *is such a sucker for big, blue (or blue-ish) eyes*
Character I'd most want to kiss: Pass. Although it might be fun to kiss Ichigo just to see his reaction.
Character I'd make lunch: I'm assuming this means "take out to lunch" and not "fry up and serve with mashed potatoes." In that case...Rukia, I think.
Character I'd go singing in the rain with: Orihime. Never a dull moment. For extra amusement, we could drag Ichigo or Ishida along.
Character I'd go shopping with: Kenpachi. No, no. We might want to leave the store intact, afterwards. No idea. Byakuya? That might be fun.
Character I'd go dancing with: Shunsui, because he's a real ladies man, but he's endearingly honorable about it. You'd have his full attention, I'd bet.
Character I'd take over the world with: Kisuke. *evil grin* That's all I'm sayin'.
Favorite Pairing: There's not a lot of Bleach pairings I really hate, but I've got a soft spot for Ichigo/Renji/Rukia. Not a pairing, per se, but whatever.
Favorite Yaoi Pairing: Awww, do I have to pick just one? *token yaoi fangirl around here, apparently* Weeeellll...Ichigo/Byakuya comes in a close second, so we'll say that. I dislike repeating myself, in any event.
Favorite Yuri Pairing: Meh. Not my thing. I might read it from time to time and I've written it on request, but... *shrugs*
And, just because:
Favorite Het Pairing: Cross between Kisuke/Yoruichi, which is all kinds of awesome and Hitsugaya/Matsumoto, which just pushes my happy buttons for some reason.
Favorite Platonic Relationship: Ichigo's relationship with his family, especially his younger sisters.